Ludwig’s Dishonest History Lesson
Racist Neo-Fascist LudwigVanQuixote goes on a rant full of alternate history and distortions.
Let’s go and pick apart his lies.
Wingnuts now routinely claim that Muslims had nothing to do with Algebra. Really? Algebra is an Arabic word!
Algebra is not an Arabic word! In fact it’s Syriac, the language of the Chaldeans!
In the preface to his Arithmeticae libri duo et totidem Algebrae (1560) he says: “The name Algebra is Syriac, signifying the art or doctrine of an excellent man.
Even if we give the Arabs the benefit of the doubt with the name, at most that’s what they contributed! Most of the Scholars were Chaldean, Jews or Persians. In fact the great Medieval Algebra mathematician, Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī was Persian.
Few details of al-Khwārizmī’s life are known with certainty, even his birthplace is unsure. His name may indicate that he came from Khwarezm (Khiva), then in Greater Khorasan, which occupied the eastern part of the Greater Iran, now Xorazm Province in Uzbekistan. Abu Rayhan Biruni calls the people of Khwarizm “a branch of the Persian tree”.[10]
Who invented Algebra, well it wasn’t the Arabs!
The mathematical principals of algebra have their roots in distant history with the ancient Babylonians. As far back as 1900 BC, the Babylonians used algebra to solve for unknown variables. At that point, the Greeks and the Chinese were still using geometric methods to solve mathematical problems, instead of utilizing algebraic equations. The Babylonians were the first people to use algebraic formulas to solve problems, but they didn’t refine the practice.
That right, the Babylonians of whom, the Chaldeans are their descendants.
They claim there was no Muslim golden age in Spain.
A foreign occupation of another land and the people used as slaves, is not a golden age.
Apologists for Islam never tire of referring to the “Golden Age” of tolerance that supposedly characterized seven centuries of Muslim dominated Spain. This fundamentally flawed assessment draws the wrong conclusion based on fragmentary evidence and distorts the larger picture. It ignores the reality of enormous destruction wrought by the three Arab-Berber Muslim invasions that repeatedly sought to hold on to control and rule over the indigenous peoples of Spain who had been reduced to second class citizens in their own homeland.
By his standards, Vichy France was a Nazi Golden Age!
I wonder who built the Alhambra
It was the last Islamic occupiers in Granada, who by that time were reduced to a small emirate.
The founder of the dynasty, Muhammed Al-Ahmar, began with the restoration of the old fortress. His work was completed by his son Muhammed II, whose immediate successors continued with the repairs. The construction of the palaces (called Casa Real Vieja, “old Royal House or Palace”) dates back to the 14th century and is the work of two great kings: Yusuf I and Muhammed V. To the first we owe, among others, the “Cuarto de Comares” (Chamber of Comares), the “Puerta de la Justicia” (Gate of Justice), the Baths and some towers. His son, Muhammed V, completed the beautification of the palaces with the “Cuarto de los Leones” (Chamber of the Lions), as well as other rooms and fortifications.
Nothing Golden about one building! In fact the real Golden Age of Spain occured in the 1500 and 1600′s!
After the Age of Exploration, innumerable amounts of gold and silver poured into Spain from the newly discovered Americas, and the country slowly became one of the wealthiest nations in the world. By the 16th century, Spain entered a period of cultural and intellectual prowess, known as its “Golden Age.” Recognized for the burgeoning of its literary, dramatic, and visual arts, Spain’s Golden Age was also marked by the growing dominance of the Roman Catholic Church and its attempt to suppress all heresy through the Inquisition.
Due in part to a political unification in Spain near the beginning of the 16th century, Spanish literature was imbued with patriotism and religious zeal, and included allusions to earlier epics and ballads. The literary arts flourished with the advent of the picaresque novel-comedies focusing on the adventures of lower class rogues-a genre that replaced the then-popular chivalric and pastoral novels. By far the most popular novel in this genre was Miguel de Saavedra’s Don Quixote. Numerous works of religious literature also dominated during the period, including the spiritual writings of St. Teresa of Ávila, Luis de León, and St. John of the Cross.
But this doesn’t mean anything to Ludwig, who is a supporter of Islamic Imperialists and a bigot against Hispanics.
He then claims there were no advanced Christian cities during the Middle Ages.
The historical reality is that in the 900′s Damascus had gaslights, sewers and running water, while London was mostly mud huts and had feces crusted streets.
Obviously Ludwig is implying there was no civilized Christian City. This turns out to be a lie!
So many rich churches and monasteries, imperial or private palaces, not to speak of the luxury of the court and the great imperial dignitaries, naturally excited the covetousness of barbarian peoples. Constantinople had, therefore, to sustain numberless sieges; it was attacked in 378 by the Goths, by the Avars and Persians during the reign of Heraclius (610-41), by the Arabs during the reign of ConstantineArabs under Moslemeh in 717; many times also by Bulgarians, Patzinaks, Russians, and Khazars. But the city always defied its besiegers, thanks to the solidity of its walls, often to the valour of its soldiers, but chiefly to the gold that it distributed in profusion. More grievous, perhaps, were the domestic conflicts that broke out in almost every new reign: the quarrels between the Blue and Green factions that clamoured for imperial favour in the races of the hippodrome; the conflagrations and earthquakes that sometimes levelled the city with the ground, e.g. the conflagration that broke out during the Nika revolt (532), on which occasion Justinian nearly lost his throne, more than 80,000 persons were killed, and fire destroyed the greater part of the city. Pogonatus (668-85), and again by the
Wow an advanced Christian city in that time frame. Another Omission is that most of these gas lights and running water were in Damascus before the Islamic conquest. He also leaves out Venice, which was an advanced city as well!
The reality is that most of the learning that brought Europe out of the Dark ages, was preserved by the Muslims, in their great Spanish universities.
Another lie, let us look at how Europe came out the Dark Ages!
Byzantium played an important role in the transmission of classical knowledge to the Islamic world and to Renaissance Italy. Its rich historiographical tradition preserved ancient knowledge upon which splendid art, architecture, literature and technological achievements were built. It is not an altogether unfounded assumption that the Renaissance could not have flourished were it not for the groundwork laid in Byzantium, and the flock of Greek scholars to the West after the fall of the Empire. The influence of its theologians on medieval Western thought (especially on Thomas Aquinas) was profound, and their removal from the “canon” of Western thought in subsequent centuries has, in the minds of many, only served to impoverish the canon.
That’s right, The Islamic world and the Western world both got their knowledge from the East Roman (Byzantine) Empire.
The fact is the Arabs conquered advanced nations in the 7th century. The people of these nations had all this so-called knowledge that Progressive historians attribute to the Arabs. What the Arabs did was translate and preserved these works. They did not create anything new or innovate as Islam is a parasite. Once the Dhimmi populations declined and these areas became increasingly Islamicized these societies went into decline. That is why the West overtook Dar Al Islam. These are historical truths, this fake Scientist, Wannabe Rabbi and deranged man LudwigVanQuixote doesn’t mention.
He fails yet again in his Progressive spin!




Daedalus…you’re all over LooseDick’s lies like a duck on a June bug.
LOODWIG, YOU FUCKING BITCH!!! DAMASCUS STILL DOESN’T HAVE SEWAGE TREATMENT, YOU FUCKING MORON!!!!!
It did in the 900′s as a legacy of Greek Byzantine rule and at that date, the population still had a significant Greek Christian presence. As the number of Dhimmis decreased, they forgot hwo to maintain it. That’s why Damascus is a dump to this day.
The Barada river is a cesspool. It runs right down the middle of town, and all the sewers dump into it. On a hot summer day, the stench is overwhelming. I’ve been there.
I suspect that the Byzantines did pretty much the same thing, but the population was so much lower, it didn’t matter. Nobody bothered trying to treat sewage until about 100 years ago.
The gas lamp thing is also bullshit. Oil lamps, maybe. The ancient Chinese had gas lamps. Not the Ummayads.
And as for the water, no duh. That was 1000-year old Roman technology.
http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/moa/wdd/wdd.nsf/all/B49870AD78B2D414C22573590035A4B8/$file/9.pdf?openelement
Oh yeah, there were no das lamps, they were oil lamps. Constantinople was more advanced than Damascus. That’s a fact. Even Venice was more advanced.
Much like what happened when the Serbs were expelled from Kosovo. The Serbs used to run regular garbage pickup service. Without the Serbs, nobody bothered to pick it up any more. Garbage and trash were (and AFAIK still are) thrown literally everywhere, resulting in a rat population explosion.
I will leave others to quarrel over whether or not “algebra” is an Arabic or a Syraic word. More to the point is where it was invented; that a word is used to describe something does not necessarily indicate the thing’s origin, but where and how the people encountering the unfamiliar thing first encountered it.
For example, we are familiar with the term “Damascus steel,” by virtue of the steel that the Saracens used for their swords, which was superior to that of the Crusaders. However, recent studies indicate that so-called “Damascus steel” actually came from Ceylon/Sri Lanka; apparently, the people there figured out how to harness the power of the prevailing trade winds on the hillsides to create small versions of the blast furnace, which is where this superior steel came from. We call it “Damascus steel” because the West encountered it in Saracen hands, but it did not come from Damascus.
Likewise, there are many words in the dictionary which have roots ascribed to Greek or Latin, but actually have Hebrew roots. Western scholars historically have favored Greek and Latin as languages for study, and favor Greek and Roman roots for Western culture; if they found a plausible basis for a word from a source with which they were familiar, they looked no further.
Plus, positional notation (aka “Arabic numerals”), which require the existence of the number zero, are of Indian origin. IOW, “Arabic numerals” aren’t.
Hey some good knowledgable point!
Lewd Wig is rapidly taking over as Court Jester over at the Swamp.
Lood Wug. The Al Franken of LGF.
I’m not a psychiatrist, but I’m more qualified than LVQ I play one online…
I’m guessing LVQ is eager to draw a comaprison between contemporary Mulims and weimar-era Jews because it gives him an opening to steer the conversation back towards him, how comassionate, caring and observant he is and how the other Jews out there are all big phonies.
Honing up on his mad revisionist skILLz is part and parcel of this….
The lonely wolf who saves the world. How terrible for him when reality will knock him to the ground.
Oh, yes, present-day Christians are behaving like Nazis toward the poor downtrodden Muslims who are just like the Jews of the 1930s & ’40s. Uh-huh. Where have I heard that before?
Oh, that’s right: straight from the mouths of lying Muslim propagandists.
The poster in question wouldn’t be writing that garbage unless he thought CJ would approve. They’ve gone from fighting against the jihad to promoting it.
Song for a sell-out.
If Arafat were still alive assuredly there would be no red(?) folder or Arafish posts there.
Ahhh, the red binder
Lets not forget those stunning contributions the arab has made in the field of aeronautics.
My link didn’t work:
Interesting. He wrote that song about Paul McCartney, if I recall correctly.
Yup.
But what have the Arabs/Muslims done in the last 1000 or so years? Lud quit mourning past glories. They have done nothing to advance the modern age. Write a nice miniblog defending the Jewish contributions to the modern age ok? Start with the number of Jewish nobel laureates.
But what have the Arabs/Muslims done in the last 1000 or so years?
I have it on good authority that they are planning to invent movable type next week.
Ha ha ha ha!
For a so called proud Jew, he really is an Arab apaologist.
Fenway and Josephine have it right. Lud thinks the Muslims are like the Jews of the 30′s. Bewildering conclusion.
Lud thinks the Muslims are like the Jews of the 30′s.
Hey, Weimar your ideology with anything like thought?
BSW – dude, I hope you come to the meetup. I am just dying to go drinking with you.
Good post mr D. Infact, very good. I knew I was hanging out here for a reason.
hey, we should forget all the atrocities muslims have committed in recent memory because of something they may or may not have done 1000 years ago.
btw lud,those medieval Anglo Saxons in their sh*tty London town gave us the common law. I suppose sharia is more to your taste?
London was “mud huts”? “feces-encrusted streets”? Well this just proves it: he doesn’t know shit.
And he accuses us of re-writing history? What a wank bastard…
Although people weren’t living in mud huts, parts of London were bad in the early 1800s.
If you go to this website:
http://www.victorianlondon.org/
And search on “Bethnal Green”, one result will feature this title:
“Sanitary Ramblings, Being Sketches and Illustrations of Bethnal Green, by Hector Gavin, 1848″
It’s not a pretty picture but it’s fascinating. I’ve read the whole thing because some of my ancestors were from that area.
“The Ghost Map” is a really good book about a cholera epidemic in London in 1854 and how it was caused by a lack of proper plumbing and sewage systems.
There’s a reason why the plumbing and sewage systems in London were problematic; terrain. It’s flat in London, compared to Damascus, and you don’t have a natural source of high-pressure water and a river that carries everything away to lower ground. Put a megacity (even in the 1800s, London was much larger than Damascus ever was) there, and yes, there are going to be sanitation issues.
Oops, forgot the link re. “Ghost Map”:
http://www.theghostmap.com/