Gus802 and the Jazz Man supports Imam Rauf

August 23, 2010

The Argentine Personista Progressive, once again shows his pro-Islamic colors. Gus802 aka. El Gusano (The worm) is OK with Imam Rauf’s anti-American comments.

So because Ron and Rand Paul agree with this view, that gives Rauf cover. El Gusanao (Gus802) is engaging in Leftist moral equivalency.

The Jazz Man also comes to Imam Rauf’s defense and uses Ron Paul as a reason why the comments are OK!

So is the Jazz Man now a Paulian? The man who was once at the forefront against the Iaslamization of America, is now a supporter!

Way to go Chuck.

  1. August 23, 2010 at 7:11 pm | #1

    And by that same token, Rauf forefiets his right to be conisdered a ‘moderate’ by all but the densest of the Kool-Aid sippy cup brigade.

    So….does that mean that the be-mulleted malamute by extension supports Ron Paul?

    • Kos Laughs At Chuckles
      August 24, 2010 at 2:31 am | #2

      To use his “six degrees to Himmler” logic, where everybody not named Charles Johnson can be linked to a Nazi, yes. Yes he is a Paulbot now.

  2. Philip_Daniel
    August 23, 2010 at 7:15 pm | #3

    Ok, that’s not how they see things…not quite…

    “The Koranic verses that deal with fighting the infidels and conquering their countries say that they should convert to Islam, pay the jizya poll tax, or be killed. If the Muslims had implemented this, we would not have reached the humiliation in which we find ourselves today.”— Saudi Cleric Muhammad Al-Arifi: The Desire to Shed Blood, Smash Skulls, and Sever Limbs for the Sake of Allah Is an Honor for the Believer, al-Rahma TV [July 19, 2010], http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2577.htm

  3. buzzsawmonkey
    August 23, 2010 at 7:15 pm | #4

    Mad King Yertle says that “he’d argue with that interpretation.”

    No, he wouldn’t; he’d merely ban whoever disagreed with him.

    • Kos Laughs At Chuckles
      August 24, 2010 at 2:30 am | #5

      then out you.

  4. Roger
    August 23, 2010 at 7:16 pm | #6

    You’d think going by the nic “Proud to be Kafir” would be racist enough to get you banned…

    • F
      August 23, 2010 at 7:19 pm | #7

      Kragar gets a “pass” because he is explicitly dumping on Pam Geller with his rant, so SChmuckie approves.

  5. Roger
    August 23, 2010 at 7:18 pm | #8

    Garbled? Levin played them loud and clear today on the radio.

    • tunnelrat
      August 23, 2010 at 8:02 pm | #9

      As did Hannity. No question whatsoever about the words which he uttered.

  6. My Little Ponytail
    August 23, 2010 at 7:18 pm | #10

    Let me get this straight. The imam is no crazier than Ron Paul or the communists at The Nation. Chuck? Really? Oh, Chucky… :roll:

    • F
      August 23, 2010 at 7:22 pm | #11

      Yet SChmuckie used RP as one of the biggest “reasons” why he ditched the Right.

      So now Ron Paul is being rehabilitated over there and soon will be well accepted because he bashes the “Militant Right”.

      • My Little Ponytail
        August 23, 2010 at 7:35 pm | #12

        Next to be rehabilitated at the zoo: Pat Buchanan.

  7. buzzsawmonkey
    August 23, 2010 at 7:22 pm | #13

    I am sooooo ooooooold that I can remember when the Turtle King would have been ashamed to snuggling up to Ron Paul.

  8. buzzsawmonkey
    August 23, 2010 at 7:33 pm | #14

    Of course, back then Mad King Yertle would have been ashamed to be seen felching Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman at all, let alone be seen clamoring for seconds in public as he does now.

    • Kos Laughs At Chuckles
      August 24, 2010 at 2:29 am | #15

      he must think that in order to get MSNBC airtime, he has to triple down on the crazy.

      And didn’t he once award Olby his “Fiskie” Award?

      Finally, I think the fact that Pam is selling books and appearing every night on TV has pushed the “National Security Blogger” off the cliff, as he used to say.

  9. Voltaires Crack
    August 23, 2010 at 7:51 pm | #16

    Expressing this in Johnsontonian logic…

    - Ron Paul is the ‘Tea Party Paleo-con Leader’
    - Ron Paul is a Republican
    - Ron Paul has been mainstreamed by the GOP, therefore;
    - Tea Partiers are Republicans;
    - Racists oppose the mosque
    - Tea Partiers oppose the mosque, therefore;
    - Tea Partiers are racist and;
    - Republicans are racist
    - Ron Paul does not support the mosque, therefore;
    - Ron Paul is not a racist, therefore;
    - Tea Partiers are not racist and,
    - Ron Paul is not a Republican and,
    - Tea Partiers are not Republicans and

    goto beginning

    or something like that.

    Net result: If tea partiers are racist, then they aren’t racist. However if tea partiers aren’t racist, then they are racist.

    As the tapes roll out, expect the logic to get more convoluted. Especially as we close in on November. If you think you’ve seen weird posts so far, you haven’t seen anything yet.

    Oh, is Gus posting from France yet?

  10. Arachne
    August 23, 2010 at 7:52 pm | #17

    I guess, Cheetos Boy, when the rest of your friends have left you, you’re stuck with the ones that will pay attention to you. What’s next Asshat? Civilian trial for KSM in New York City.

    You’re not even pathetic anymore. You’re just a turd in a punchbowl. Hey – and I guess the MSM doesn’t see Pam as a harpy – since she’s getting all the guest appearances. You’re only good for a snippet on WaPo – on an article all about HER.

    • tunnelrat
      August 23, 2010 at 8:06 pm | #18

      What’s next?
      “You know, those Troofers do bring up some good points…..”

      • tunnelrat
        August 23, 2010 at 8:25 pm | #19

        “And I will not tolerate the degrading term ‘troofer’ on my website. They are to be referred to as ‘fact finders’. Those who continue to disrespect these courageous citizen journalists will have their accounts blocked.”

      • My Little Ponytail
        August 23, 2010 at 9:34 pm | #20

        And ZOMG!!!!111 Steel doesn’t melt at the temperature in the WTC!!!!!1111 It’s SCIENCE!!!!!111

    • buzzsawmonkey
      August 23, 2010 at 8:31 pm | #21

      Sale! Today only! Troofer the price of one!

  11. Arachne
    August 23, 2010 at 7:53 pm | #22

    BTW – How many “national security” threads did you start today, and did they all begin with Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck?

  12. Voltaires Crack
    August 23, 2010 at 7:54 pm | #23

    buzzsawmonkey :
    I am sooooo ooooooold that I can remember when the Turtle King would have been ashamed to snuggling up to Ron Paul.

    Buzz: Can you give the group a prediction on how Yertle is going to spin the Imam’s comments supporting a single-state solution for Israel?

    • buzzsawmonkey
      August 23, 2010 at 7:57 pm | #24

      I never predict; it’s a sucker bet. I am, however, confident that the Mad King will give forth with a leap of logic that confirms—should anyone doubt—that fruit, water, urine, and a once-noble blog all roll downhill.

    • nil stooge
      August 23, 2010 at 8:32 pm | #25

      My predicition – the way Gus802 is spinning it here. It’s “out of context”, “a splice”.
      Gus802 helpfully gives the full context and I don’t see any difference in Rauf’s position given the full context.
      But that will be the spin – “out of context”, “exculpatory sentences edited out”, etc – and hope no one bothers to check the full, non-exculpatory context.

      159- Gus 802 +6
      This must be part of the alleged secret 13 hours of tape. I already found some fraud being perpetrated by Steven Emerson.
      Here is his blurb and it includes audio:

      On Israel, Rauf said he does not favor the plan to establish a Palestinian state along with Israel. Instead, “The differences, perhaps, may lie on whether the solution lies in the two-state solution or in a one-state solution. I believe that you had someone here recently who spoke about having a one land and two people’s solution to Israel. And I personally – my own personal analysis tells me that a one-state solution is a more coherent one than a two-state solution. So if we address the underlying issue, if we figure out a way to create condominiums, to condominiamise Israel and Palestine so you have two peoples co-existing on one state, then we have a different paradigm which will allow us to move forward.”

      It’s a splice. We can find that he combined two different comments from Rauf:

      The differences, perhaps, may lie on whether the solution lies in the two-state solution or in a one-state solution. I believe that you had someone here recently who spoke about having a one land and two people’s solution to Israel. And I personally – my own personal analysis tells me that a one-state solution is a more coherent one than a two-state solution. But anyway it goes, there is no doubt in my mind that once there is peace, and there will have to be a peace in the region, the fallout of that will be enormously positive.
      [...]
      So the Israeli conflict, in my opinion, is not about theology, it’s about land and it’s about the acquisition of that land and how it was acquired. That is the aetiology of this particular conflict. So if we address the underlying issue, if we figure out a way to create condominiums, to condominiamise Israel and Palestine so you have two peoples co-existing on one state, then we have a different paradigm which will allow us to move forward.

      • buzzsawmonkey
        August 23, 2010 at 8:43 pm | #26

        I remain steadfast in my support for a two-state solution: Israel from the river to the sea, and Jordan—the state which takes up some 2/3 of “Palestine” under the British Mandate—recognized for what it is, the only legitimate “Palestinian state.”

  13. August 23, 2010 at 8:17 pm | #27

    As Sharmuta used to say “You are being disingenuous”, Chuckles.

    • Kos Laughs At Chuckles
      August 24, 2010 at 2:32 am | #28

      or “Charles always wins”, or “you rawk, Charles!”

  14. Voltaires Crack
    August 23, 2010 at 9:23 pm | #29

    Hercales :
    As Sharmuta used to say “You are being disingenuous”, Chuckles.

    The glass of fashion and the mould of form.

  15. Formercorpsman
    August 23, 2010 at 10:09 pm | #30

    Hell of a reach around.

  16. Philip_Daniel
    August 23, 2010 at 10:33 pm | #31

    My Little Ponytail :
    And ZOMG!!!!111 Steel doesn’t melt at the temperature in the WTC!!!!!1111 It’s SCIENCE!!!!!111

    It was DA JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS! Tamerlane is a myth! Mahmud Ghaznavi is a myth! Qutbuddin Aibak is a myth! Amr bin al-As is a myth! Badr Khan Beg is a myth! Tariq ibn Ziyad is a myth! Abd al-Mumin never existed! MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSLIMS ARE PEACEFUL! KILL DA ZIONAZI NEOCON KKKAPITALIST NEW-NAZI JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

    OK, Pinko rant over. (Wow, mocking Progs is fun!)

  17. Kos Laughs At Chuckles
    August 24, 2010 at 2:26 am | #32

    Jeebus. Every time Gellar is on TV, I can hear a voice from SOCAL screaming, “that should be me on there! Get me my fruit and water!”

    Maybe his psychosis over the mosque is proportionally related to the ink/airtime Pam gets: as she gets more attention, he gets nuttier and nuttier.

  18. phoenixgirl
    August 24, 2010 at 8:51 am | #33

    ………..so now unless we read absolutely everything else rauf wrote we are not allowed to judge him…….holy cow

  19. Typicalwhitey
    August 24, 2010 at 9:25 am | #34

    “you’d have to ignore everything else he has written”
    Isn’t that what cj does? He cherry picks things then…you are a nazi/racist/harpy…ala seven degrees from kevin bacon!

  20. PeteP
    August 24, 2010 at 11:26 am | #35

    So Chuck thinks there’s an “American version of Islam”. For someone who spent 6 years blogging on radical Islam, he is remarkably clueless. Islam is Islam Chuck. There is no “American version” or any other version and you would be hard pressed to find any Muslim scholar who would tell you otherwise.

    • Overlook
      August 24, 2010 at 1:10 pm | #36

      Exactly. I think the Wally has befriended an American Muslim, middle-class, well-educated, leftist, probably female and unveiled, who has been influenced by the American view of religion – that it is matter of visiting a house of worship from time to time, praying, enjoying feast days and fasting, observing the sabbath. Unobtrusive, familial, community reinforcing, good-works doing, consumerist. Being religious in this way is expected and encouraged in America. Jews do it, Christians do it, even brightly clothed Hindus do it. Such a Muslim might want Eid to be as exciting a time in the shops as Christmas. Such a Muslim might argue for the “equality” of Islam – an illuminated crescent placed next to the neon minorah and golden baby Jesus creche. Such a Muslim will insist on the warmth and loving qualities of Islam – that it is another Hallmark religion – and be hurt at the suggestion that she and her family are violent. She will say “people should not take Al Qaeda as representing all muslims.” In fact, she wants Americans to see her as representing all muslims.
      Such a Muslim will be, and has been, the target of Islamic extremism. It is precisely the “American” in American Islam that the jihadists despise and which they believe negates the Islam. I do not think that Rauf is winning hearts and minds in the Arab/Muslim world by describing how most Muslims in America are indistinguishable from everybody else and treated just the same.

  21. Overlook
    August 24, 2010 at 12:42 pm | #37

    “I’d argue with him over that interpretation, but he’s entitled to his opinions without being accused of being a secret agent for the jihad.”

    Is having an opinion that the Imam is a (not so secret) agent for the jihad not also an “entitlement”?
    On his logic, should one not be entitled to that opinion without being accused of being a bigot?
    Since when have expressing opinions immunized one from smears, innuendo, insult and mockery?
    The Wally’s own opinions should open him up to accusations of being a booby in jack boots.
    Interesting, though, that he might disagree with the Imam’s “interpretation” of the Muslim view of America. I should like to see him set out what is wrong with that view, without offending Islam.

  22. Philip_Daniel
    August 25, 2010 at 3:09 am | #38

    Overlook :
    Exactly. I think the Wally has befriended an American Muslim, middle-class, well-educated, leftist, probably female and unveiled, who has been influenced by the American view of religion – that it is matter of visiting a house of worship from time to time, praying, enjoying feast days and fasting, observing the sabbath. Unobtrusive, familial, community reinforcing, good-works doing, consumerist. Being religious in this way is expected and encouraged in America. Jews do it, Christians do it, even brightly clothed Hindus do it. Such a Muslim might want Eid to be as exciting a time in the shops as Christmas. Such a Muslim might argue for the “equality” of Islam – an illuminated crescent placed next to the neon minorah and golden baby Jesus creche. Such a Muslim will insist on the warmth and loving qualities of Islam – that it is another Hallmark religion – and be hurt at the suggestion that she and her family are violent. She will say “people should not take Al Qaeda as representing all muslims.” In fact, she wants Americans to see her as representing all muslims.
    Such a Muslim will be, and has been, the target of Islamic extremism. It is precisely the “American” in American Islam that the jihadists despise and which they believe negates the Islam. I do not think that Rauf is winning hearts and minds in the Arab/Muslim world by describing how most Muslims in America are indistinguishable from everybody else and treated just the same.

    Two words — KEJDA GJERMANI

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