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What, No Hat Tip For Me?

November 2, 2010

We’re getting plenty of hints that CJ is playing as close attention to this blog as any other website, so I should caution everyone who contributes here to choose their words wisely. I bring this up because it appears that I’ve given CJ an idea, and in blog warfare one should keep their cards close to their chest, and always be aware that what you reveal can be turned against you and/or used to the opponent’s advantage.  So here I have to put up a thread to get the ball back.

My mistake this time was a comment I made yesterday, where I elaborated on the numbers presented in Stats Shocka: LGF Pages vs. DoD:

That’s pretty simple logic, and it seemed harmless enough.  But compare that to what CJ posted today (the “stats” thread must have left a mark):

Yes, he just realized it.

Anyway,   I’ll hand it to CJ here for agreeing with me and attempting to come up with a good way to more accurately quantify the real views of individual articles, but I’m afraid to say this is a FAIL.

Before I explain, CJ should clarify re: the Pages, because seeing a hyperlinked thread title in a sidebar shouldn’t constitute a “view” in anyone’s book.   In fact, it fails the criteria that CJ laid out in the preceding sentence (containing full text), and by that rationale would mean that any view of any page with an RSS feed on it should count as a “view” for those linked threads.   That’d be more blatant cheating, but that’s how it reads in CJ’s comment.

On the other hand, if CJ meant to say that they’ll count when someone views the LGF Pages’ main page,  then that’d be consistent.  But he didn’t specify that, and we stopped giving CJ the benefit of the doubt a long time ago.

Either way, its a sham unless its used as a separate and internal statistic.   The technique (and the resulting statistic) could no longer be used as comparison to other sites unless it is known that the same technique is used.   But even then, the thread count on the front page must be equal for a truly accurate comparison (if I’m correct, each additional article should have an exponential effect on the increase; I’ll call this the “scroll-assume” variable.)  Complicating things further, a front page post will register once initially, then again when clicked on, counting twice for essentially one “read”.   I’d expect the numbers to go up quite a bit.

Bottom line:  I just gave CJ an idea on how to inflate his visible stats, and how to make it sound good to the horde.  

Sorry ’bout that.

  1. kansas
    November 2, 2010 at 8:34 pm | #1

    Close attention? Like, stalking? Asswipe.

  2. PeteP
    November 2, 2010 at 8:41 pm | #2

    He can fool his readers with his inflated stats but he won’t be fooling us. We know his real numbers are trending down and there’s no reason to believe that will change anytime soon.

    • My Little Ponytail
      November 2, 2010 at 8:44 pm | #3

      More to the point, he can’t fool his advertisers, either. Pulling the plug on the independent (Quantcast, Alexa, etc) counters was pure genius. Of the Wyle E. Coyote variety.

  3. November 2, 2010 at 9:00 pm | #4

    The “scroll assume” … :lol: … IOW, he chooses to assume that each viewer will scroll all the way down the page to view the text of every article on his main page. If I understand correctly, he is using this COMPLETELY BOGUS assumption as grounds for claiming a separate page view for each of the articles on that page.

    That’s cheating.

    • PeteP
      November 2, 2010 at 9:18 pm | #5

      Yes, it’s absolute crap. So if he’s got 10 articles on his home page, then one click on his home page will count as 10 views or hits on his database. It’s the act of a desperate and dishonest man.

      And I wouldn’t hold my breath for a hat tip either. Chuck is renowned for stealing other people’s ideas and work and not giving due credit.

  4. johnny molecule
    November 2, 2010 at 9:11 pm | #6

    You could do something really, really hilarious and ironic – like ban his IP. Apart from making me piss my pants with laughter it would also stop him pilfering your ideas – or at least make him depend even more on his dwindling minions to find out what those ideas are.

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