Oy.

November 20, 2010

All I can think of when I read this is Mel Brooks’ “Hitler on Ice”. Not sure exactly why.

All I can think of is Mel Brooks saying “oy”.

H/T Daedalus

Categories: LudwigVanQuixote
  1. My Little Ponytail
    November 20, 2010 at 12:58 pm | #1

    Oh, frakk me. Now he’s arguing back with the Yeshiva students from the safety of his castle.

    Coward.

    • November 20, 2010 at 1:24 pm | #2

      I noticed that too.

      Even by internet standards he’s a pussy.

    • November 23, 2010 at 10:37 pm | #3

      Drain bamage…

      Luddy’s spewage isn’t writing, it’s typing, and incoherent typing at that.

      The Yeshiva students won’t waste their time looking for some cogent argument embedded within this drivel that merits any response.

      He’s crazy as a bedbug, and he seems to be sharing his bassackward, delusional world with selrahC, who doesn’t even care about him at all.

      I sure hope Luddy doesn’t go berserk with the lab equipment and injure somebody before the men in the white coats have a chance to take him away in the rubber truck.

  2. RB
    November 20, 2010 at 1:09 pm | #4

    Wow. I don’t know if it has ever been said before, but LVQ is a cockwallet.

  3. RB
    November 20, 2010 at 1:15 pm | #5

    And also allow me to just comment and say that this is a disgusting anti-Semitic rant, that is just dripping with hatred for Jews and Judaism, by someone who is pretending to be Jewish in order to get away with posting it

    But hey, It’s CJ’s site. If he wants to allow Anti-Semitic postings, it’s his right. Glad I was banned from there before he started allowing this crap.

    • November 20, 2010 at 3:03 pm | #6

      He’s been exposed as an impostor.

      • My Little Ponytail
        November 20, 2010 at 3:17 pm | #7

        Jewish as a ham sandwich.

  4. poteen
    November 20, 2010 at 1:17 pm | #8

    Behold the wisdom of the great, allknowing Ludwig van Godwin.
    Damn, he’s funny.

    • RB
      November 20, 2010 at 1:21 pm | #9

      Look at all the phrases littered throughout his rant – words and phrases he ended up learning when he, as Buzz put it, “Got Torah new one…” that he most likely didn’t know before that. That’s probably the funniest part. What a lying faker he is LOL

  5. November 20, 2010 at 1:19 pm | #10

    ‘Ludwig van Quixote’, tilting at windmills again. Good to see he’s following in his father’s footsteps…

  6. November 20, 2010 at 1:21 pm | #11

    So a villanous billionaire with evil morals who iniltrates and destabilizes countries and is targeting America gets a pass from criticims because he’s Jewish – is that this simpleton’s moronic point?

    Who’s making a big deal out of Soros’s Jewishness – LewdWank or Beck?

    Who’s offering facts to support or refute points Lewdwank’s points 1-7 (he left out derf BTW) – Beck or LewdWank?

    Full on Nazi or too damn hot – which comes first? ‘Effects’ or ‘affects’ – which is right?

    Hyperbolic, hyper-prolix simpleton.

    • snowcrash
      November 20, 2010 at 1:35 pm | #12

      No one mixes Full on Nazi and Too Damned Hot quite like Ludwig. Either way billions will die. LOL

      • November 20, 2010 at 1:46 pm | #13

        True, that.

        And for him the solutions to all his impending apocalypses are the same – Democratic socialism.

        How convenient.

      • My Little Ponytail
        November 20, 2010 at 1:49 pm | #14

        Again, Mel Brooks comes to mind. Hotsie Nazi.

  7. Philip_Daniel
    November 20, 2010 at 1:33 pm | #15

    As a Jew, I must speak out…

    Soros is only an ETHNIC JEW, and ALL ETHNICITIES have their BAD SEEDS. Soros holds religion in UTTER CONTEMPT, particularly Judaism, and OPPOSES Zionism, the self-determination of the Jewish Nation in their Historic Indigenous Homeland, in every-which-way possible. Calling out Soros for his Destructive Utopian Neo-Marxism, as well as his Anti-Zionism and Anti-Judaism, does not make one an antisemite. If so, then I, a practicing Conservative Jew who attends a Traditional Synagogue and a staunch Zionist, am an antisemite (which is patently absurd)…

    • My Little Ponytail
      November 20, 2010 at 1:46 pm | #16

      Good point. Marx was an ethnic Jew, but not exactly a religious person. Note that Ludwig came awfully close to equating anticommunism with Nazism there. See a pattern?

      • Philip_Daniel
        November 20, 2010 at 1:51 pm | #17

        Has he heard of Stalin’s Plot Against the Jewish Doctors? Or Zionology? Or any other manifestations of Stalinist and post-Stalinist Antisemitism in the USSR?

      • My Little Ponytail
        November 20, 2010 at 3:19 pm | #18

        Or the fact that Lev Landau was laboring in a gulag in Siberia until Stalin decided he was “needed” to create the H-bomb?

        How you like that love of Jews and science, Lood?

    • November 20, 2010 at 3:05 pm | #19

      It’s not biology what determines a person. Ludwig at best is like Soros. Biologically Jewish but not of that culture and he uses it as a shield. Or he’s just an impostor playing a Jew online to give them a bad name and as a shield. He’s really a lowlife, like Soros.

  8. poteen
    November 20, 2010 at 1:36 pm | #20

    Here’s an argument FOR outing LVQ. He writes all these lengthy screeds with an arrogant attitude, libelous rhetoric, intolerance of differing viewpoints and simple revisionist history.
    In 20 years, when the absolute folly of his pronouncements is ‘settled science’, he shouldn’t be able to hide from his ignorance.

    • November 23, 2010 at 10:39 pm | #21

      I’d like to see him outed so that somebody can put him where he can’t injure anybody.

  9. garycooper
    November 20, 2010 at 1:47 pm | #22

    I haven’t seen this kind of insanity in feverish, doomsday-prophet-mode ranting since I was reading the journals of full-blown schizophrenics in college. Lewd-Squid is pulling in crazy-threads from all over the crazy-quilt of The Libtard School. It’s coming to a full boil, isn’t it?

    “Sure, Lewdy,” he said comfortingly. “We dig you.”

    (get his meds, while I distract him from the knives)

  10. November 20, 2010 at 1:48 pm | #23

    Daedalus and I have come to the conclusion that Lud is NOT a Jew. No way in Hell. This brain damaged moron is playing a game that will not end well for him.

    • RB
      November 20, 2010 at 1:54 pm | #24

      He’s not. Again, I point out his sudden usage of phrases, which he recently learned in the smackdown he received, that were directed at himself by others.

  11. November 20, 2010 at 1:53 pm | #26

    nil stooge :

    True, that.

    And for him the solutions to all his impending apocalypses are the same – Democratic socialism.

    How convenient.

    Democratic Socialism = Communism.

  12. My Little Ponytail
    November 20, 2010 at 1:56 pm | #27

    Now how does this work?

    Jews like that, frequently don’t believe the Earth orbits the sun either, and since they are forbidden to own televisions, are perhaps unaware of Beck and how bad it is. They were easy prey for the Fox fear machine around elections though.

    So they don’t have TVs, but are easy prey to Beck? WTF?

    • November 20, 2010 at 2:11 pm | #28

      When you strip the proof by assertion and argument from authority from this tool’s rants there’s never much left that’s not illogical and insubstantial is there?

  13. My Little Ponytail
    November 20, 2010 at 1:59 pm | #29

    More WTFage:

    I am particularly disappointed in many of my fellow Jews in this nation. If there is one group in America who should get it, about what a rising Nazi movement looks like, it should be us. However, when it was first pointed at Blacks and Muslims, all too many of our Rabbaim and organizations like the ADL were silent or even supportive.

    Beck was pointing his Nazi ray gun at Blacks and Muslims? Has this guy ever actually seen Glenn Beck?

    [scratching head]

  14. My Little Ponytail
    November 20, 2010 at 2:04 pm | #30

    Yet more WTFage:

    How much more obvious does it need to be when the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are once again front and center ina national spotlight and GOP candidates like to dress up as waffen SS and Az.

    Huh?

    • November 20, 2010 at 3:19 pm | #31

      That Coke man is messing his head!

  15. My Little Ponytail
    November 20, 2010 at 2:11 pm | #32

    Pw3ned is his own diary:

    6 Buck Fri, Nov 19, 2010 4:25:06pm -1

    Attacking a jew, is not the same as attacking the jews.

    Calling Soros a billionaire is not a generalization like all jews love money.

    Calling out George Soros and His Campaign to Buy the US Presidency is not the same as saying jews are plotting to get their candidate be the presidency.

    Pointing out when George Soros calls the President (Bush) Hitler is not the same as calling all jews antisemites.

    Talking about George Soros spending his money to manipulate the media is NOT the same as saying Jews manipulate the media.

    Nazi!!!!!!!11

  16. November 20, 2010 at 2:17 pm | #33

    that is sick beyond any understanding. the lewd freak should be committed.

    • November 20, 2010 at 2:50 pm | #34

      Someday LewdWig, to his great chagrin when Charles outs and retroactively disowns him, may find that he’s been posting this misogynist, racist hyperbole in the great laissez faire period of LGF Pages.

      (cf. Pamela Geller’s experience)

    • My Little Ponytail
      November 20, 2010 at 2:59 pm | #35

      He’s committed, all right. :roll:

  17. Iron Fist
    November 20, 2010 at 2:29 pm | #36

    nil stooge :True, that.
    And for him the solutions to all his impending apocalypses are the same – Democratic socialism.
    How convenient.

    He doesn’t reallY want Democratic socialism. Look what those damn teabaggers did to the lord god Obama on 2 November with their votes. He wants Democrat Socialism, and Obama will be happy to give it to him by Executive Order I suspect. No votes for you!

  18. November 20, 2010 at 2:33 pm | #37

    Anti-science Nazis? Of course- now I see it!

    Well, I guess that means they developed the V- series rockets and 1st ever jet fighter through some sort of magic gleaned from Der Hogwarts or something. Makes sense when you’ve been roofy-ing and sodomozing Godwin and posting the pictures online.

    And of course, flash forward to the 21st century, where the military-industrial complex- the official watchdogs of the vast right wing conspiracy, depending on who you talk to- has been developing things like reactive armor, sattelite-based surrvailence, wireless communications that have come to us thanks too a blend of Catholic excorcists, Santeria and an Apache shaman toiling away in the sooper seekrit labratory at an undisclosed location somewhere…

    • RB
      November 20, 2010 at 2:38 pm | #38

      Fenway_Nation :
      Anti-science Nazis? Of course- now I see it!
      Well, I guess that means they developed the V- series rockets and 1st ever jet fighter through some sort of magic gleaned from Der Hogwarts or something. Makes sense when you’ve been roofy-ing and sodomozing Godwin and posting the pictures online.
      And of course, flash forward to the 21st century, where the military-industrial complex- the official watchdogs of the vast right wing conspiracy, depending on who you talk to- has been developing things like reactive armor, sattelite-based surrvailence, wireless communications that have come to us thanks too a blend of Catholic excorcists, Santeria and an Apache shaman toiling away in the sooper seekrit labratory at an undisclosed location somewhere…

      Well yeah, but they use Algebra. You know how important Algebra is to Science.

      • DEZ
        November 20, 2010 at 2:49 pm | #39

        Algebra predicts that 1/2 a pound of ice makes trillions of gallons of sea water when heated 2 degrees.

        /Lewd mode off.

      • My Little Ponytail
        November 20, 2010 at 2:58 pm | #40

        Algebra is a tool. But then again…

    • My Little Ponytail
      November 20, 2010 at 2:42 pm | #41

      The “evidence” of the anti-science Nazis was the reference to Deutsche Physik movement, which was a clown show. They weren’t so much anti-science as they were anti modern (QM and relativity) science.

      In the end, they lost the argument when Heisenberg was declared a loyal Aryan, and given the keys to their nuke program (which was baked on “Jewish physics”).

      What a dumbfrak.

      • RB
        November 20, 2010 at 2:45 pm | #42

        “Evidence” should almost never be used when discussing LewdwigVanQuickoats.

  19. vagabond trader
    November 20, 2010 at 2:49 pm | #43

    Rather ironic to use factual criticism of a G-dless anti Zionist self loathing creature like Soros as an example of rightwingnut anti semitism.Did he also manage to slip an AGW reference into this screed? Lewd is a flippin moron.

    • November 20, 2010 at 2:53 pm | #44

      The question is will he copy and paste this screed onto another Yeshiva site?

      • My Little Ponytail
        November 20, 2010 at 2:57 pm | #45

        Absolutely not. I think he’s learned that he has to do this from the safety of the Little Green Fortress.

        It’s going to be a while before he ventures outside of the left wing nutosphere again.

    • My Little Ponytail
      November 20, 2010 at 2:55 pm | #46

      Of course. You were expecting different?

      And it’s impossible to miss the fact that this rant was directly aimed at the “frummies” who are ignorant because they don’t watch TV, who handed him his treif ass a couple weeks ago.

    • wolfie
      November 20, 2010 at 6:17 pm | #47

      “Did he also manage to slip an AGW reference into this screed?”

      Why, yes, he did! :lol:
      Being an AGW skeptic is anti-semitic. Oh hell! Who are we kidding? It’s fullblown Nazi!

  20. RB
    November 20, 2010 at 2:51 pm | #48

    vagabond trader :
    Rather ironic to use factual criticism of a G-dless anti Zionist self loathing creature like Soros as an example of rightwingnut anti semitism.Did he also manage to slip an AGW reference into this screed? Lewd is a flippin moron.

    Yes. A few sentences down from his Nazi link. Basically, if you disagree with AGW and stuff, you’re a Nazi.

    • vagabond trader
      November 20, 2010 at 2:58 pm | #49

      Thought I saw one.Dude is a one note song waaay off key. :mrgreen:

      • RB
        November 20, 2010 at 3:15 pm | #50

        Yeah he is. He’s also a lying, faking coward.

        But on the off-chance he is a “scientist”, I hope he becomes a laughing stock in his profession and ends up co-authoring books with Carlos Castenada.

  21. DEZ
    November 20, 2010 at 3:02 pm | #51

    Fenway_Nation :
    Anti-science Nazis? Of course- now I see it!
    Well, I guess that means they developed the V- series rockets and 1st ever jet fighter through some sort of magic gleaned from Der Hogwarts or something. Makes sense when you’ve been roofy-ing and sodomozing Godwin and posting the pictures online.
    And of course, flash forward to the 21st century, where the military-industrial complex- the official watchdogs of the vast right wing conspiracy, depending on who you talk to- has been developing things like reactive armor, sattelite-based surrvailence, wireless communications that have come to us thanks too a blend of Catholic excorcists, Santeria and an Apache shaman toiling away in the sooper seekrit labratory at an undisclosed location somewhere…

    Lewd gets his science from Al Gore, which is similar to going to a proctologist for a dental exam.
    Well in his case, it would make sense.

  22. RB
    November 20, 2010 at 3:09 pm | #52

    My Little Ponytail :
    Algebra is a tool. But then again…

    LOL

  23. November 20, 2010 at 3:09 pm | #53

    The only thing more pathetic than being an internet tough guy and a faux Jewish AGW Rage boy is an individual who thinks his opinions hold any sort of merit.

    • November 20, 2010 at 3:21 pm | #54

      He really thinks his opinions are earth shattering. But then again he thinks Chuck/LGF influences elections.

  24. Overlook
    November 20, 2010 at 3:29 pm | #55

    Once again, the left is twisting meaning. Because the Protocols was a forgery concerning Jewish conspiracy for world domination, the left is invoking it to dismiss actual conspiracies for world domination. What else is the transnational progressive socialist endeavor? What else is the AGW anschluss on capitalism?
    I have actually seen (Melanie Phillips thread) a leftist claiming that if one believes that it is foolish to believe in world-wide conspiracies, then it is foolish to give credence to world-wide antisemitism.
    In other words, the salience of the Protocols is not that it lied about Jews, but that it made conspiracy into a lie. So now no international conspirators may exist.

    • My Little Ponytail
      November 20, 2010 at 3:37 pm | #56

      It’s not as if Soros’ associations and aims are any secret. It may be politically tone-deaf on his part, but Soros has been quite open about his goals in the US.

      Perhaps he is somewhat of a lightning rod because there are plenty of other rich patrons of the left (Heinz, for example), but Soros did this to himself by speaking so frankly in the media. I don’t think he sees a problem with a foreigner waltzing into a country that isn’t his, and trying to direct events. Ironic, because the left has a name for this kind of behavior: imperialism.

  25. wolfie
    November 20, 2010 at 6:07 pm | #57

    “I have argued long and hard….I have written many, many times….I have argued long and hard….I have argued long and hard…..” :lol: :lol: :lol:

  26. spidly
    November 20, 2010 at 6:29 pm | #58

    Wow… dude is batshit crazy

  27. garycooper
    November 20, 2010 at 9:09 pm | #59

    spidly :Wow… dude is batshit crazy

    With all the verbiage posted here tonight, you have summed it up as succinctly as can be. That’s it. All the rest is decoration.

  28. buzzsawmonkey
    November 20, 2010 at 9:23 pm | #61

    The Lewd Wig’s stock in trade is false equivalvence. There are some very interesting examples of false equivalence in the screed that tops this thread.

    1) The “Protocols” is a forgery; it is a paranoid bigot’s fantasy of Jewish domination. Since it was written by paranoid bigots, it taps perfectly into the mindset of other paranoid bigots, which accounts for its continuing popularity in certain quarters.

    2) George Soros is a real person, who has done real things that harm real people. These actual events by an actual person have nothing to do with a hundred-year-old paranoid fantasy.

    3) One of the things that Soros himself has done is make his distaste for the religion of the Jewish people, and the self-determination of the Jewish people in Israel, part of the public record. He has never been sympathetic with “Yiddishkeit” in any way, shape or form, and is very much on record as being virulently opposed to it.

    4) Beck’s attack on Soros, by all accounts (I did not see it), made absolutely nothing of Soros’ tenuous connection to the Jewish people by accident of birth. Rather, Beck attacked Soros’ genuine actions, leaving any “Jewish connection” entirely alone.

    5) There is, thus, no connection whatsoever between Beck’s attack/exposure of Soros and the “Protocols,” or Soros’ ethnicity. It is a complete false equivalence; an attempt by a mendacious fool to scream “dogwhistle!” so loudly that the unspoken “implications” that he is imagining obscure the actual facts and the actual presentation.

  29. Finrod
    November 20, 2010 at 9:31 pm | #62

    A lot of you have pointed it out already, but as a religious Jew I can’t tell you how abso-friggin-lutely hilarious this post is! Basically after Luddy got his tuchas handed to him by the Yeshiva boys he began frantically google-ing all of the words that were used against him.

    There is NO WAY that Luddy knew what any of these words meant before the bashing he received at YWN. In the orthodox world, all of these words he uses are basically known as “Yeshivish.” It’s kind of like the vernacular in a lot of the ultra orthodox world. Things like “Rabbaim” (rabbis), “Chillul Hashem” (desecration of G-d’s name), “apikorus” (heretic), are all words that this guy (who is definitely NOT Jewish) never even heard of. It’s despicable that he is now employing them to somehow increase his Jewish credibility. And the utter and complete chutzpah to stake a claim in the Torah which he clearly has no respect for.

    This man is seriously deranged.

    • Bagua
      November 20, 2010 at 10:02 pm | #63

      You are quite correct, the normally verbose Ludnut was instantly silenced on that thread. He simply knew not how to reply. The above post comes days later giving him time to google away and come up with this nonsense.

      What a pathetic fraud Ludwig is, he should know better than to try to debate his betters on a blog where he is not protected.

  30. Bagua
    November 20, 2010 at 10:00 pm | #64

    What a pathetic coward Ludwig is. He gets spanked on the Yeshiva forum, but not banned, and rather than debate them there he retreats to LGF and publishes this foolish rant.

    Also, Finrod is quite correct, I read Ludnut for the last couple of years, and he never used the various terms he learned when the Yeshiva boys gave him his spanking. Now he flails them about to build up his false image. Pathetic.

    Sad… I called him on this about a year back. No way is he an educated, Frum Jew. His ideology is too vile and outlandish. I don’t doubt that he is some sort of Bal T’Chuva lacking a real Jewish education. Just like his “science”, what he knows comes from self-taught Googling, a sure route to shallowness and hypocrisy.

    Now Ludwig, complete the picture by visiting a real science blog and engaging in debate. You won’t? Ha, ha ha, phony importer that you are.

  31. Bagua
    November 20, 2010 at 10:37 pm | #65

    pimf: impostor

    *laughing too hard to type*

    • A guy with actual degrees in hard sciences.
      November 21, 2010 at 6:13 pm | #66

      I can’t speak at all to the main topic, but as to his alleged knowledge of science: his use most of all, of appeal to authority as his primary method of persuasion, is very much in line with certain fashionable philosophies on the left and not at all so with a creditable education in the sciences.

      It is also very unlike a person with a proper science education to speak of theories as “proven”. Theories are never proved but are at best not disproved. Such talk is typical among subscribers to the frustrating strain of thought in the culture that views all things as knowable by means of science. This strain turns science in to a faith and while its adherents, like LudwigVanIgnoramus, will never recognize it, leads logically to solipsism.

      • My Little Ponytail
        November 21, 2010 at 6:22 pm | #67

        My thoughts exactly. And when he does talk theory, it reads like it was cut-and-paraphrased out of some website. And then in the next breath he;s say something that will indicate that he doesn’t the foggiest idea of what he just wrote.

        Nobody’s arguing the greenhouse effect, it’s the feedback multiple that’s in question. And he can’t even figure that much out.

  32. Philip_Daniel
    November 20, 2010 at 11:18 pm | #68

    Lube-’n-Dig (LudwigVonQuixote) :
    More WTFage:

    I am particularly disappointed in many of my fellow Jews in this nation. If there is one group in America who should get it, about what a rising Nazi movement looks like, it should be us. However, when it was first pointed at Blacks and Muslims, all too many of our Rabbaim and organizations like the ADL were silent or even supportive.

    Nazis had no issue with blacks, and they loved Muslims.

    FAIL, Lube-’n-dig. FAIL.

    • My Little Ponytail
      November 20, 2010 at 11:53 pm | #69

      You no habla Ludwigese. Let me ‘splain. The “Nazis” he’s referring to there are the self-evidently Nazi GOP, specifically Glenn Beck. He uses “Nazi” and “Beck” interchangeably.

      As for real Nazis, they did decidedly have a large problem with Blacks, but as you point out, they were allied with most of the Muslim world, including Arafat’s notorious uncle. That fact alone should make modern day American Blacks question whether or not Islam is their friend.

  33. ISpeakJove
    November 21, 2010 at 3:06 pm | #70

    The wannabe Jew thing sounds like it might be an SCA persona. Goes to the big Renaissance Faires in Maryland, does fighting in parks on the weekends as a mediaeval Spanish Crypto-Jew. Might explain his love of swords and hand to hand, Miss S’s lovely bodice blah,blah,blah. I’m thinking pencil-necked geek of German extraction, dungeon and dragoner, with a Don Quixote moustache. Living in a fantasy world battling mythic enemies at every turn.

    (Armchair psychiatrist)

  34. garycooper
    November 21, 2010 at 5:50 pm | #71

    ISpeakJove :The wannabe Jew thing sounds like it might be an SCA persona. Goes to the big Renaissance Faires in Maryland, does fighting in parks on the weekends as a mediaeval Spanish Crypto-Jew. Might explain his love of swords and hand to hand, Miss S’s lovely bodice blah,blah,blah. I’m thinking pencil-necked geek of German extraction, dungeon and dragoner, with a Don Quixote moustache. Living in a fantasy world battling mythic enemies at every turn.
    (Armchair psychiatrist)

    It fits. Fantasy is obviously a huge part of this critter’s psyche. Shallow, libtardian google-knowledge is his stock-in-trade, like a lot of young doofuses these days on the ‘net. His “enemies list” is right off the Dhimmicratic Underground or Kos Kidz bulletin board, and I’ve recognized several of their ongoing memes in his recent rants.

    I watch those forums for laughs, and to check up on the kind of garble my college and high school-aged girls are being fed by their teachers. It’s proven to be a useful habit.

  35. AZfederalist
    November 23, 2010 at 10:20 pm | #72

    Wow, that was the most deranged posting I have attempted to read in a long time. Sorry, just couldn’t get through the whole thing. At best it was incoherent, at worst insane. Totally contradictory positions in the same paragraph, betrayed a woeful lack of either historical, religious, or scientific knowledge. Deranged would be the best description. Granted, I only read about the first 1/2 — did the second half get any better?

    Thought not.

  36. AZfederalist
    November 23, 2010 at 10:24 pm | #73

    One more thought — his rantings remind me of some of the rantings from the KosKiddies, especially after Bush won the 2004 election. Same hysterical sky is falling, Nazis coming crap.

    When the reality was exactly the opposite — we didn’t head in the direction of a police state until after the 2006 election and then hit the accelerator after the 2008 election.

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